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Today's date is Halloween. It's October 31st. Our first order of business is approval of our minutes, when committee members have 00:00:00
had a chance to review. 00:00:04
I would entertain a motion to approve. 00:00:10
So moved, second, moved, and seconded. Any discussion all in favor? Say aye, aye? 00:00:12
Minutes are approved. Item number one is approval of an engineering services agreement with Porter Higginbotham Engineering for 00:00:18
the Channing Park Sanitary Sewer project. 00:00:23
Total is $53,535. 00:00:29
Welcome. 00:00:33
Is there so changing park is out Co. 00:00:40
Yes, Sir. It's about a half a mile before you get to Joe Malcolm Parkway. 00:00:43
The lots in there served by septic tank. Some of those septic tanks have issues. 00:00:49
This project will do is provide a low pressure force main a public low pressure force. 00:00:53
For residents of tile two that are dealing with those failing septic systems. 00:00:58
We'll install the the main and stub out for each lot. Then the homeowners will be responsible for. 00:01:04
Purchasing. 00:01:10
Private side driver. 00:01:11
To. 00:01:13
So this will be the engineering for that. What is that project? Thank you. 00:01:15
For the For the private homeowner, what what does that cost usually run? 00:01:20
To do that would be a sewer customer for us, right? What does that usually cost? 00:01:25
$5000. 00:01:32
Cost me. 00:01:36
Really is there? 00:01:37
Sorry, is there, I mean if it's $5000, is there a payment plan that we do as a city or is it just you got to do the title? 00:01:40
So will it be totally up to them to decide to get on or not, or whether it be automatically tied on? 00:01:48
Mr. Crow, just just a little bit of clarification. They don't purchase the grinder pump from us. This is their own responsibility 00:01:55
to get a plumber. 00:02:00
Right, at your own personal expense. 00:02:06
And that's anywhere in the city. 00:02:09
I'm just kind of wonder. 00:02:11
Any other opportunities? 00:02:13
Financing, no matter what part of town you live in, that's can be very expensive. 00:02:16
To see if there's options to publicly assist with that and. 00:02:22
You know, turned up there. 00:02:28
Nothing. 00:02:30
'Cause 'cause Mr. Mr. Crow. 00:02:31
We try to explore ways to. 00:02:33
Calls for those that live in that. 00:02:36
Because we. 00:02:39
You know, I don't. I don't know. 00:02:42
The left, but I think this has been a very needed project. 00:02:43
I think we're headed in the right direction. I think so depending on where you live, I understand part of that, but I do think in 00:02:50
this time we're living in right now that could be a major expense for. 00:02:55
In Woodland Hills. 00:03:02
I can't afford to talk to you can't afford. 00:03:05
I'm sorry to ask some dumb questions, but. 00:03:09
Installation of a public low pressure force main sanitary sewer system. We're just putting a sewer main that they can connect to. 00:03:13
You know, typical sewer throughout the city, the majority of its gravity. 00:03:23
Gravity. We call it gravity. 00:03:28
It's, you know, it's an 8 inch pipe manholes. It flows by gravity. That's the force that conveys the sewer. 00:03:31
The force that convies this sewer is the actual pumps. The public grounder use that, the homeowners. So it's kind of like a train, 00:03:39
it just moves. 00:03:44
Pump turns on. Why is it not? That's what I was about to ask. Sorry. What? Why is it not gravity? 00:03:49
Gravity to get. 00:03:55
So you have to have a low point to. 00:03:57
So the nearest we looked at gravity, the projection of gravity cost was 1.2 million. 00:04:00
So this. 00:04:07
1/5 of that. 00:04:08
And so this is, I don't know where Channing Park is. That Channing Park is right on Cova Road, right across the street from Wesley 00:04:11
Estates. 00:04:15
Yeah. 00:04:19
Before you get to Joe Mellor, it's just half a mile up Coral Rd. So is this, is this what we do if if it's somebody there in the 00:04:21
city, they are in the city? 00:04:26
We've done it. We've done this before in other areas. Off the top of my head, we did it. 00:04:32
Within a little system ACA, we did one on Firefox Drive. We did one. OK, so if you're in the city and you don't have. 00:04:36
Sewer. 00:04:43
Unusual for us to put a sewer. 00:04:46
In for you to tie to, yeah, it seems like we've done this on a case by case basis. 00:04:49
Well for those two you give kind of an over an overview of how this project came to be so that so that. 00:04:58
Those who are watching can understand. 00:05:06
Yeah, I think. I think for. 00:05:10
Several years ago, almost like 2016. 00:05:15
Started come to the city, approaching them saying they had septic tank problems and there was money. 00:05:20
Put aside. 00:05:26
To do something for this. 00:05:28
And the gravity was looked at and. 00:05:30
Too. 00:05:33
You know this, this option was looked at and now we're trying to move. 00:05:37
So, so, so it's probably from these people coming forward talking about their such tank problems they're having, the issues 00:05:41
they're having us trying to give them a solution to public option to tie them to some point. Was there ever any money put aside 00:05:46
for this before? 00:05:51
For the study or any other money put aside. 00:05:56
Yeah, that's before we knew that gravity. You had to do what you're doing. 00:05:59
Yeah, there's a budget. 00:06:04
I think the budget off top my head is 275. 00:06:08
This cost is roughly 5055. 00:06:13
So. 00:06:17
That budget was established years ago, I think when they were trying to pursue some engineering costs. I'm not exactly sure the 00:06:20
details of how it got established. 00:06:24
It had sat there for a while. 00:06:28
So at this point if we have gone ahead. 00:06:32
Ahead with this. 00:06:38
Could those? 00:06:39
Persons in Chant. 00:06:41
Been on Gravity SE? 00:06:43
I mean, what 'cause I thought it was 375. 00:06:47
Could they be? 00:06:51
Would that would that have covered the cost during that time? 00:06:53
I'm not sure what's some additional fund. 00:06:58
That 375 that I thought we that we had discussed plus some additional. 00:07:01
Could that have happened so that we could have gotten him on gravity sewer back then? Yeah, no, I mean the cost is. 00:07:06
You know, $1.2 million was a quick desktop review. I mean that's the automatic we're talking about. 00:07:13
You know millions. 00:07:20
You know, several years ago. 00:07:22
Much more than the established budget. 00:07:25
So. 00:07:29
Miss Wilson, I'm sorry you have follow up. No, so we're asking. 00:07:31
You're asking us just to fund the study to do this and then you'll come back with the actual cost of this, right? 00:07:36
I'm asking y'all the fund engineering, yeah, this is not the study. This is how to build it up. And we're going to bid it and then 00:07:43
we're going to get a contractor. We'll come back. 00:07:48
More questions or what entertain motion? How how many folks has? 00:07:56
4. 00:08:03
That we're looking. 00:08:07
Are they already paying? 00:08:10
What? What are? What are they already? 00:08:12
So if you're within, I don't know specifically for these lots, I know in general that if you're within two or four the sewer 00:08:15
system that you are paying a sewer. 00:08:19
Regardless if you're tight on it or not really, I think the thing in there is, yeah, this is that's long established. I've made 00:08:24
discussions over the years. 00:08:29
I think the thinking is eventually you're probably going to tie on and say, you know, you're paying for these conveyances, the 00:08:35
establishment of these conveyances, the treatment, the lift stations, all this stuff. So perhaps these people have been paying 00:08:39
for, let's say about 30 or 40 years. 00:08:43
No, they've not been paying right 'cause there hadn't been a sewer line of 200 feet. 00:08:49
Are they within 200 feet? 00:08:55
Again, if you're within 200 foot of a available sewer. If you have an available. 00:09:01
Now as I say that I don't think this, if you have the pump to get to that series, you're likely not considered available. 00:09:06
This is a project. 00:09:15
Of this desperately needed. 00:09:17
Within my district. 00:09:21
That gives the people the opportunity to choose whether or not they want to tie in or not. 00:09:24
I shall move second. All in favor. Say aye, item number one is approved. Item number two, approval of minor public works contract 00:09:31
with hydro service for lift. 00:09:36
28 pump to repair the total 73. 00:09:42
Yes Sir, this is. 00:09:48
For a pump, that's. 00:09:50
Broke down that Hydra service, we're getting them through up here so the legislation 28 is out off got Club Way. 00:09:53
Questions. This is pay for other operations, capital repair and supplies budget. 00:10:01
Second, food saving all in favor, say aye, aye aye. Item number two is approved. Item number three, approval of the minor public 00:10:08
works contract with Rick. 00:10:12
Service Company LLC for Lift Station 33 generator repair. The total is $8500 Brian. 00:10:16
Yes, Sir. Little Session 33 is down 69 S to South Crabtree Rd. It's the primary lift station down 69 S. 00:10:23
For some context this. 00:10:31
To supply and install a new generator controller system. The current controllers it's obsolete. It will operate automatically, so 00:10:34
this is payment for that. It's paid for other operations, capital repairs and supplies. Budget questions. 00:10:40
So second move, second all in favor, say aye, item number three is approved, item number four is approval of balancing change 00:10:47
order to the construction contract with SD Bun Construction Company for citywide reservoirs in 2021 project. 00:10:54
The deductive total is 566 Seven 9062 Zack. 00:11:01
Afternoon, Council. 00:11:06
As chairperson said, this is a deductive change order for $566,790.62. 00:11:11
For the 2021 resurfacing project. 00:11:19
Not to not to look a gift towards in the in the mouth, but why? 00:11:24
From what I can tell, it looks like there's a couple roads that were moved and done in the 2023 resurfacing project and then also 00:11:31
McDonald Hughes parking lot. 00:11:35
Was not done because they were going to have a big construction project there anyway, so they didn't want to research. So we took 00:11:40
some of the expected items off the list. 00:11:44
Motion to approve Second moved Second all in favor say aye, item number 4. 00:11:50
Happily approved Item number 5 is approve of construction. It'll be back with K and A drivers for City Hall NX1 elevated parking 00:11:55
lot. 00:11:59
Resurfacing project, the totals $199,000. Eric, welcome gentlemen. Thank you. So this is to award a contractor K and A builders to 00:12:04
resurface the parking deckery. The council parks right now we're going to go in, we're going to remove the coding that's currently 00:12:09
there that's coming up. 00:12:15
Fix this falling and the cracking of the concrete, then go back and waterproof it. 00:12:20
And that's called the elevated parking lot. 00:12:25
Why? 00:12:28
It needs. 00:12:29
No watch it is elevated but. 00:12:30
Never mind, I can live without it. Either way, I'll just put. 00:12:34
No, no, I get. I was gonna say it's elevate, it's elevated. They're paying for it. I would, I would put to y'all the most. 00:12:39
Urgent thing needed, at least from the council standpoint, in that parking lot is space to park. 00:12:48
So you've seen several things come before address that. You mean make them bigger? 00:12:57
So we've got. 00:13:04
Well, you've seen several things come before you're dealing with this. It's just trying to get everything lined up in time 00:13:07
correctly. 00:13:10
Motion. 00:13:14
Second, second, all in favor. 00:13:15
Item number six is approval to enter into a minor public works contract with Tuscan City Hall basement gate operator installation. 00:13:19
The total is 36,959. Eighteen. Tim Welcome. 00:13:25
Thank you. Good afternoon, afternoon. While we're on the subject of parking spaces, we would like to install a new gate operator 00:13:32
for the lower level security garage. That's what this project is for. It is funded by facility renew. 00:13:39
Timeline. 00:13:48
Once they get started, they anticipate 4 to 5 days. 00:13:50
2nd. 00:13:57
Item number seven is approval to enter into a minor public works contract with J&L Tree. 00:14:02
Tree removal services total not to exceed 50,000 per year for the three-year term. Craig, welcome. Thank you Sir. Good afternoon, 00:14:07
council. Good afternoon. Like I said, we're just wanting to kind of alleviate a little bit of the. 00:14:14
What it takes to come up here and do a tree by tree contract service? 00:14:22
You know, we've really cut down on what we're bringing to y'all from the previous. 00:14:27
And I see that continuing to go that route, but we would still like to have a contract just in case we get into something that we 00:14:32
don't want to deal with the liability of. We will still see the trees correct. 00:14:36
If you're gonna cut something down in my district. 00:14:42
Do I know about it? 00:14:47
No, Sir. 00:14:48
And we we currently do that with our crews as we speak we that's that's the way. 00:14:51
What's the status of our cruise I? 00:14:57
I thought we were in the process of re establishing that capability in house. We are and it's we've hired 2 guys out of the four 00:15:02
man crew. If you remember we brought it in front of committee to raise the page to try and get. We've had that job on the board 00:15:08
since November without being able to feel two of the positions. 00:15:14
We've just raised the pay and we're hoping that when this comes off the board in a couple of weeks that you know we'll have some 00:15:21
better qualified applicants to put in forward. 00:15:24
We're also still waiting on some equipment that was ordered out of the 22 budget, a grapple truck that should be here next month. 00:15:28
That'll help us pick up a little bit more, but. 00:15:33
I mean these guys have cut it down from about 144,145 thousand and 22. 00:15:38
Down to about 4847 thousand this year on what we paid for out of trees. 00:15:45
What we've paid for out of house, paid for out of our outside services, now these guys are doing a lot of work that you're not 00:15:51
seeing in Colton. 00:15:56
We had to takedown a bunch of trees before that project to redo the part so that we didn't have to pay the contractor to come and 00:16:01
remove those trees. 00:16:04
I mean, we probably had a 4045% increase this year on calls for downed trees or trees that need to come down limbs, things of that 00:16:08
nature. 00:16:13
And the guys are, that's what they're mainly handling, they're those calls, so the trees that I see. 00:16:17
Those are just the ones that need outside. When I say I see the trees that I see in here that are to be cut down, that's just the 00:16:23
ones you all need a funding approval from outside. 00:16:29
Say if we still take down more trees on our. 00:16:38
That we're not bringing in front of council, yes. 00:16:42
Great. What can I ask a quick question? What determines whether we do it in? 00:16:46
Or you do it outside? Is it all liability driven or is it the last tree I can remember that we brought? 00:16:51
It was something. It had Deadwood in it. We were worried that you may have to use a crane to pull it down piece by piece. 00:16:58
It was leaning towards a house and we didn't want to have to deal with potentially dropping it on house. 00:17:05
And we don't have a boom truck. 00:17:10
That we can utilize to pull it down fees by piece. So part of it is equipment based, right, that you're like you're waiting on 00:17:13
some equipment that's kept you. 00:17:17
Doing more in house. That's right, some of the larger we've been lucky having to use Public Works and ESD to help us take trees 00:17:23
away from location. 00:17:27
Because we don't have that grapple truck to be able to do that in CFG right now. And like I said, that truck will be here 00:17:31
hopefully in two to three weeks. 00:17:35
Any other questions? 00:17:40
Go ahead. So will this be a case by case? 00:17:43
As we use util. 00:17:46
Up to that $50,000. 00:17:48
Not to exceed at 50,000 per year. We look at each tree on a case by case. Now as to whether our guys can take it down, whether it 00:17:51
needs to go to Alabama Power Company for them to handle it or if we need to utilize outside services such as this. And so do you, 00:17:57
do you foresee by the time? 00:18:03
This three-year term is up that we will have all of the equipment that we need and hopefully the position that we feel so that we 00:18:10
can execute. 00:18:14
Our own tree services, I don't force that. We may bring this amount down in years to come, but I don't foresee us taking. 00:18:19
Not having a. 00:18:26
Some type of contract contract, open contract with the contractor for emergency situations, something that is potentially larger 00:18:28
than our guys can handle or like I said, liability issues where we don't. 00:18:35
You know, potentially drop a tree on the House or you know, something of that nature. 00:18:43
I have one other question, and it's probably not for you, Craig, and I'm not sure, Mayor Eric. 00:18:48
As as we begin, not. 00:18:54
As the taking down of these huge. 00:18:58
Oak trees. 00:19:02
The reason? Tuscaloosa to Druid City. 00:19:06
And it's going, it's happening more and more frequently because they're at that point where they're carrying up sidewalks, roads, 00:19:09
sewer lines, etcetera, OK. 00:19:14
Do we have anyone in the city who? 00:19:20
T. 00:19:24
Restoring. 00:19:27
The aesthetic, if not necessarily. 00:19:29
Giant oak trees. Somebody else going to have to cut down the future. 00:19:33
As those are a part of the. 00:19:37
Beauty and appeal of the downtown area. 00:19:41
We're taking them down. What are? 00:19:46
To replace that effect, so as part of the. 00:19:49
The Planning department, that's one of their duties, is the Landscape ordinance that was. 00:19:54
15 years ago, roughly certain trees are required in certain situations. 00:20:00
They've gone back and looked at certain things every year as far as student housing goes and some of the more historic 00:20:05
neighborhoods and around some of the campus area, how we can replace some of those trees. 00:20:11
Also we have an urban forest master plan that we. 00:20:16
10 to 12 years ago, as part of funding through the Forestry Association so that there is a plan in place and through the Landscape 00:20:19
Ordinance, a lot of these trees get replaced. 00:20:23
But it just takes time through development and it's a public private partnership at that point. 00:20:28
I would. 00:20:33
Mr. Chairman, I would. I would like to. 00:20:34
At some point when there's space on the agenda. 00:20:37
We get an update briefing on. 00:20:40
What that plan is taken care. 00:20:44
No, I think it'll be So I wrote the landscape Ordinance and then I was also the one who dealt with the Forestry Commission to get 00:20:48
the grant years ago. So I'm more than happy. I thought you knew a lot about that. 00:20:55
So who's the right person to brief it? I can work with planning on that. 00:21:03
Just saying, whenever you can do that please. 00:21:09
OK, Motion to approve. Second moved and seconded. All in favor? Say aye. 00:21:13
Item number seven is approved. Is there any other business to be brought before our committee today? 00:21:18
Our next projects committee meeting will be next Tuesday. 00:21:25
November the 7th. If there are no other issues to be brought forces to a meeting I. 00:21:30
I would entertain a motion to adjourn. 00:21:35
Moved and seconded. All in favor, say aye Aye. Opposed. 00:21:38
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Today's date is Halloween. It's October 31st. Our first order of business is approval of our minutes, when committee members have 00:00:00
had a chance to review. 00:00:04
I would entertain a motion to approve. 00:00:10
So moved, second, moved, and seconded. Any discussion all in favor? Say aye, aye? 00:00:12
Minutes are approved. Item number one is approval of an engineering services agreement with Porter Higginbotham Engineering for 00:00:18
the Channing Park Sanitary Sewer project. 00:00:23
Total is $53,535. 00:00:29
Welcome. 00:00:33
Is there so changing park is out Co. 00:00:40
Yes, Sir. It's about a half a mile before you get to Joe Malcolm Parkway. 00:00:43
The lots in there served by septic tank. Some of those septic tanks have issues. 00:00:49
This project will do is provide a low pressure force main a public low pressure force. 00:00:53
For residents of tile two that are dealing with those failing septic systems. 00:00:58
We'll install the the main and stub out for each lot. Then the homeowners will be responsible for. 00:01:04
Purchasing. 00:01:10
Private side driver. 00:01:11
To. 00:01:13
So this will be the engineering for that. What is that project? Thank you. 00:01:15
For the For the private homeowner, what what does that cost usually run? 00:01:20
To do that would be a sewer customer for us, right? What does that usually cost? 00:01:25
$5000. 00:01:32
Cost me. 00:01:36
Really is there? 00:01:37
Sorry, is there, I mean if it's $5000, is there a payment plan that we do as a city or is it just you got to do the title? 00:01:40
So will it be totally up to them to decide to get on or not, or whether it be automatically tied on? 00:01:48
Mr. Crow, just just a little bit of clarification. They don't purchase the grinder pump from us. This is their own responsibility 00:01:55
to get a plumber. 00:02:00
Right, at your own personal expense. 00:02:06
And that's anywhere in the city. 00:02:09
I'm just kind of wonder. 00:02:11
Any other opportunities? 00:02:13
Financing, no matter what part of town you live in, that's can be very expensive. 00:02:16
To see if there's options to publicly assist with that and. 00:02:22
You know, turned up there. 00:02:28
Nothing. 00:02:30
'Cause 'cause Mr. Mr. Crow. 00:02:31
We try to explore ways to. 00:02:33
Calls for those that live in that. 00:02:36
Because we. 00:02:39
You know, I don't. I don't know. 00:02:42
The left, but I think this has been a very needed project. 00:02:43
I think we're headed in the right direction. I think so depending on where you live, I understand part of that, but I do think in 00:02:50
this time we're living in right now that could be a major expense for. 00:02:55
In Woodland Hills. 00:03:02
I can't afford to talk to you can't afford. 00:03:05
I'm sorry to ask some dumb questions, but. 00:03:09
Installation of a public low pressure force main sanitary sewer system. We're just putting a sewer main that they can connect to. 00:03:13
You know, typical sewer throughout the city, the majority of its gravity. 00:03:23
Gravity. We call it gravity. 00:03:28
It's, you know, it's an 8 inch pipe manholes. It flows by gravity. That's the force that conveys the sewer. 00:03:31
The force that convies this sewer is the actual pumps. The public grounder use that, the homeowners. So it's kind of like a train, 00:03:39
it just moves. 00:03:44
Pump turns on. Why is it not? That's what I was about to ask. Sorry. What? Why is it not gravity? 00:03:49
Gravity to get. 00:03:55
So you have to have a low point to. 00:03:57
So the nearest we looked at gravity, the projection of gravity cost was 1.2 million. 00:04:00
So this. 00:04:07
1/5 of that. 00:04:08
And so this is, I don't know where Channing Park is. That Channing Park is right on Cova Road, right across the street from Wesley 00:04:11
Estates. 00:04:15
Yeah. 00:04:19
Before you get to Joe Mellor, it's just half a mile up Coral Rd. So is this, is this what we do if if it's somebody there in the 00:04:21
city, they are in the city? 00:04:26
We've done it. We've done this before in other areas. Off the top of my head, we did it. 00:04:32
Within a little system ACA, we did one on Firefox Drive. We did one. OK, so if you're in the city and you don't have. 00:04:36
Sewer. 00:04:43
Unusual for us to put a sewer. 00:04:46
In for you to tie to, yeah, it seems like we've done this on a case by case basis. 00:04:49
Well for those two you give kind of an over an overview of how this project came to be so that so that. 00:04:58
Those who are watching can understand. 00:05:06
Yeah, I think. I think for. 00:05:10
Several years ago, almost like 2016. 00:05:15
Started come to the city, approaching them saying they had septic tank problems and there was money. 00:05:20
Put aside. 00:05:26
To do something for this. 00:05:28
And the gravity was looked at and. 00:05:30
Too. 00:05:33
You know this, this option was looked at and now we're trying to move. 00:05:37
So, so, so it's probably from these people coming forward talking about their such tank problems they're having, the issues 00:05:41
they're having us trying to give them a solution to public option to tie them to some point. Was there ever any money put aside 00:05:46
for this before? 00:05:51
For the study or any other money put aside. 00:05:56
Yeah, that's before we knew that gravity. You had to do what you're doing. 00:05:59
Yeah, there's a budget. 00:06:04
I think the budget off top my head is 275. 00:06:08
This cost is roughly 5055. 00:06:13
So. 00:06:17
That budget was established years ago, I think when they were trying to pursue some engineering costs. I'm not exactly sure the 00:06:20
details of how it got established. 00:06:24
It had sat there for a while. 00:06:28
So at this point if we have gone ahead. 00:06:32
Ahead with this. 00:06:38
Could those? 00:06:39
Persons in Chant. 00:06:41
Been on Gravity SE? 00:06:43
I mean, what 'cause I thought it was 375. 00:06:47
Could they be? 00:06:51
Would that would that have covered the cost during that time? 00:06:53
I'm not sure what's some additional fund. 00:06:58
That 375 that I thought we that we had discussed plus some additional. 00:07:01
Could that have happened so that we could have gotten him on gravity sewer back then? Yeah, no, I mean the cost is. 00:07:06
You know, $1.2 million was a quick desktop review. I mean that's the automatic we're talking about. 00:07:13
You know millions. 00:07:20
You know, several years ago. 00:07:22
Much more than the established budget. 00:07:25
So. 00:07:29
Miss Wilson, I'm sorry you have follow up. No, so we're asking. 00:07:31
You're asking us just to fund the study to do this and then you'll come back with the actual cost of this, right? 00:07:36
I'm asking y'all the fund engineering, yeah, this is not the study. This is how to build it up. And we're going to bid it and then 00:07:43
we're going to get a contractor. We'll come back. 00:07:48
More questions or what entertain motion? How how many folks has? 00:07:56
4. 00:08:03
That we're looking. 00:08:07
Are they already paying? 00:08:10
What? What are? What are they already? 00:08:12
So if you're within, I don't know specifically for these lots, I know in general that if you're within two or four the sewer 00:08:15
system that you are paying a sewer. 00:08:19
Regardless if you're tight on it or not really, I think the thing in there is, yeah, this is that's long established. I've made 00:08:24
discussions over the years. 00:08:29
I think the thinking is eventually you're probably going to tie on and say, you know, you're paying for these conveyances, the 00:08:35
establishment of these conveyances, the treatment, the lift stations, all this stuff. So perhaps these people have been paying 00:08:39
for, let's say about 30 or 40 years. 00:08:43
No, they've not been paying right 'cause there hadn't been a sewer line of 200 feet. 00:08:49
Are they within 200 feet? 00:08:55
Again, if you're within 200 foot of a available sewer. If you have an available. 00:09:01
Now as I say that I don't think this, if you have the pump to get to that series, you're likely not considered available. 00:09:06
This is a project. 00:09:15
Of this desperately needed. 00:09:17
Within my district. 00:09:21
That gives the people the opportunity to choose whether or not they want to tie in or not. 00:09:24
I shall move second. All in favor. Say aye, item number one is approved. Item number two, approval of minor public works contract 00:09:31
with hydro service for lift. 00:09:36
28 pump to repair the total 73. 00:09:42
Yes Sir, this is. 00:09:48
For a pump, that's. 00:09:50
Broke down that Hydra service, we're getting them through up here so the legislation 28 is out off got Club Way. 00:09:53
Questions. This is pay for other operations, capital repair and supplies budget. 00:10:01
Second, food saving all in favor, say aye, aye aye. Item number two is approved. Item number three, approval of the minor public 00:10:08
works contract with Rick. 00:10:12
Service Company LLC for Lift Station 33 generator repair. The total is $8500 Brian. 00:10:16
Yes, Sir. Little Session 33 is down 69 S to South Crabtree Rd. It's the primary lift station down 69 S. 00:10:23
For some context this. 00:10:31
To supply and install a new generator controller system. The current controllers it's obsolete. It will operate automatically, so 00:10:34
this is payment for that. It's paid for other operations, capital repairs and supplies. Budget questions. 00:10:40
So second move, second all in favor, say aye, item number three is approved, item number four is approval of balancing change 00:10:47
order to the construction contract with SD Bun Construction Company for citywide reservoirs in 2021 project. 00:10:54
The deductive total is 566 Seven 9062 Zack. 00:11:01
Afternoon, Council. 00:11:06
As chairperson said, this is a deductive change order for $566,790.62. 00:11:11
For the 2021 resurfacing project. 00:11:19
Not to not to look a gift towards in the in the mouth, but why? 00:11:24
From what I can tell, it looks like there's a couple roads that were moved and done in the 2023 resurfacing project and then also 00:11:31
McDonald Hughes parking lot. 00:11:35
Was not done because they were going to have a big construction project there anyway, so they didn't want to research. So we took 00:11:40
some of the expected items off the list. 00:11:44
Motion to approve Second moved Second all in favor say aye, item number 4. 00:11:50
Happily approved Item number 5 is approve of construction. It'll be back with K and A drivers for City Hall NX1 elevated parking 00:11:55
lot. 00:11:59
Resurfacing project, the totals $199,000. Eric, welcome gentlemen. Thank you. So this is to award a contractor K and A builders to 00:12:04
resurface the parking deckery. The council parks right now we're going to go in, we're going to remove the coding that's currently 00:12:09
there that's coming up. 00:12:15
Fix this falling and the cracking of the concrete, then go back and waterproof it. 00:12:20
And that's called the elevated parking lot. 00:12:25
Why? 00:12:28
It needs. 00:12:29
No watch it is elevated but. 00:12:30
Never mind, I can live without it. Either way, I'll just put. 00:12:34
No, no, I get. I was gonna say it's elevate, it's elevated. They're paying for it. I would, I would put to y'all the most. 00:12:39
Urgent thing needed, at least from the council standpoint, in that parking lot is space to park. 00:12:48
So you've seen several things come before address that. You mean make them bigger? 00:12:57
So we've got. 00:13:04
Well, you've seen several things come before you're dealing with this. It's just trying to get everything lined up in time 00:13:07
correctly. 00:13:10
Motion. 00:13:14
Second, second, all in favor. 00:13:15
Item number six is approval to enter into a minor public works contract with Tuscan City Hall basement gate operator installation. 00:13:19
The total is 36,959. Eighteen. Tim Welcome. 00:13:25
Thank you. Good afternoon, afternoon. While we're on the subject of parking spaces, we would like to install a new gate operator 00:13:32
for the lower level security garage. That's what this project is for. It is funded by facility renew. 00:13:39
Timeline. 00:13:48
Once they get started, they anticipate 4 to 5 days. 00:13:50
2nd. 00:13:57
Item number seven is approval to enter into a minor public works contract with J&L Tree. 00:14:02
Tree removal services total not to exceed 50,000 per year for the three-year term. Craig, welcome. Thank you Sir. Good afternoon, 00:14:07
council. Good afternoon. Like I said, we're just wanting to kind of alleviate a little bit of the. 00:14:14
What it takes to come up here and do a tree by tree contract service? 00:14:22
You know, we've really cut down on what we're bringing to y'all from the previous. 00:14:27
And I see that continuing to go that route, but we would still like to have a contract just in case we get into something that we 00:14:32
don't want to deal with the liability of. We will still see the trees correct. 00:14:36
If you're gonna cut something down in my district. 00:14:42
Do I know about it? 00:14:47
No, Sir. 00:14:48
And we we currently do that with our crews as we speak we that's that's the way. 00:14:51
What's the status of our cruise I? 00:14:57
I thought we were in the process of re establishing that capability in house. We are and it's we've hired 2 guys out of the four 00:15:02
man crew. If you remember we brought it in front of committee to raise the page to try and get. We've had that job on the board 00:15:08
since November without being able to feel two of the positions. 00:15:14
We've just raised the pay and we're hoping that when this comes off the board in a couple of weeks that you know we'll have some 00:15:21
better qualified applicants to put in forward. 00:15:24
We're also still waiting on some equipment that was ordered out of the 22 budget, a grapple truck that should be here next month. 00:15:28
That'll help us pick up a little bit more, but. 00:15:33
I mean these guys have cut it down from about 144,145 thousand and 22. 00:15:38
Down to about 4847 thousand this year on what we paid for out of trees. 00:15:45
What we've paid for out of house, paid for out of our outside services, now these guys are doing a lot of work that you're not 00:15:51
seeing in Colton. 00:15:56
We had to takedown a bunch of trees before that project to redo the part so that we didn't have to pay the contractor to come and 00:16:01
remove those trees. 00:16:04
I mean, we probably had a 4045% increase this year on calls for downed trees or trees that need to come down limbs, things of that 00:16:08
nature. 00:16:13
And the guys are, that's what they're mainly handling, they're those calls, so the trees that I see. 00:16:17
Those are just the ones that need outside. When I say I see the trees that I see in here that are to be cut down, that's just the 00:16:23
ones you all need a funding approval from outside. 00:16:29
Say if we still take down more trees on our. 00:16:38
That we're not bringing in front of council, yes. 00:16:42
Great. What can I ask a quick question? What determines whether we do it in? 00:16:46
Or you do it outside? Is it all liability driven or is it the last tree I can remember that we brought? 00:16:51
It was something. It had Deadwood in it. We were worried that you may have to use a crane to pull it down piece by piece. 00:16:58
It was leaning towards a house and we didn't want to have to deal with potentially dropping it on house. 00:17:05
And we don't have a boom truck. 00:17:10
That we can utilize to pull it down fees by piece. So part of it is equipment based, right, that you're like you're waiting on 00:17:13
some equipment that's kept you. 00:17:17
Doing more in house. That's right, some of the larger we've been lucky having to use Public Works and ESD to help us take trees 00:17:23
away from location. 00:17:27
Because we don't have that grapple truck to be able to do that in CFG right now. And like I said, that truck will be here 00:17:31
hopefully in two to three weeks. 00:17:35
Any other questions? 00:17:40
Go ahead. So will this be a case by case? 00:17:43
As we use util. 00:17:46
Up to that $50,000. 00:17:48
Not to exceed at 50,000 per year. We look at each tree on a case by case. Now as to whether our guys can take it down, whether it 00:17:51
needs to go to Alabama Power Company for them to handle it or if we need to utilize outside services such as this. And so do you, 00:17:57
do you foresee by the time? 00:18:03
This three-year term is up that we will have all of the equipment that we need and hopefully the position that we feel so that we 00:18:10
can execute. 00:18:14
Our own tree services, I don't force that. We may bring this amount down in years to come, but I don't foresee us taking. 00:18:19
Not having a. 00:18:26
Some type of contract contract, open contract with the contractor for emergency situations, something that is potentially larger 00:18:28
than our guys can handle or like I said, liability issues where we don't. 00:18:35
You know, potentially drop a tree on the House or you know, something of that nature. 00:18:43
I have one other question, and it's probably not for you, Craig, and I'm not sure, Mayor Eric. 00:18:48
As as we begin, not. 00:18:54
As the taking down of these huge. 00:18:58
Oak trees. 00:19:02
The reason? Tuscaloosa to Druid City. 00:19:06
And it's going, it's happening more and more frequently because they're at that point where they're carrying up sidewalks, roads, 00:19:09
sewer lines, etcetera, OK. 00:19:14
Do we have anyone in the city who? 00:19:20
T. 00:19:24
Restoring. 00:19:27
The aesthetic, if not necessarily. 00:19:29
Giant oak trees. Somebody else going to have to cut down the future. 00:19:33
As those are a part of the. 00:19:37
Beauty and appeal of the downtown area. 00:19:41
We're taking them down. What are? 00:19:46
To replace that effect, so as part of the. 00:19:49
The Planning department, that's one of their duties, is the Landscape ordinance that was. 00:19:54
15 years ago, roughly certain trees are required in certain situations. 00:20:00
They've gone back and looked at certain things every year as far as student housing goes and some of the more historic 00:20:05
neighborhoods and around some of the campus area, how we can replace some of those trees. 00:20:11
Also we have an urban forest master plan that we. 00:20:16
10 to 12 years ago, as part of funding through the Forestry Association so that there is a plan in place and through the Landscape 00:20:19
Ordinance, a lot of these trees get replaced. 00:20:23
But it just takes time through development and it's a public private partnership at that point. 00:20:28
I would. 00:20:33
Mr. Chairman, I would. I would like to. 00:20:34
At some point when there's space on the agenda. 00:20:37
We get an update briefing on. 00:20:40
What that plan is taken care. 00:20:44
No, I think it'll be So I wrote the landscape Ordinance and then I was also the one who dealt with the Forestry Commission to get 00:20:48
the grant years ago. So I'm more than happy. I thought you knew a lot about that. 00:20:55
So who's the right person to brief it? I can work with planning on that. 00:21:03
Just saying, whenever you can do that please. 00:21:09
OK, Motion to approve. Second moved and seconded. All in favor? Say aye. 00:21:13
Item number seven is approved. Is there any other business to be brought before our committee today? 00:21:18
Our next projects committee meeting will be next Tuesday. 00:21:25
November the 7th. If there are no other issues to be brought forces to a meeting I. 00:21:30
I would entertain a motion to adjourn. 00:21:35
Moved and seconded. All in favor, say aye Aye. Opposed. 00:21:38
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